tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.comments2011-01-22T02:32:35.146-05:00All Thought Is PracticalS. Coulterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09871591426399844076noreply@blogger.comBlogger119125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-55107567223078574742009-10-05T03:55:34.396-04:002009-10-05T03:55:34.396-04:00It feels a little harsh to me. In each case the w...It feels a little harsh to me. In each case the word "denied" is presumptive. It assumes that an individual really understands and comprehends his baptism. Why couldn't it be the case that I want to be ordained to progress beyond ordinary discipleship because I am naive to the nature of my baptism and the nature of spiritual progress? Prehaps it would be wiser to say that I am Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08403210805587314292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-83328349440521984312009-10-02T10:05:15.957-04:002009-10-02T10:05:15.957-04:00Marc,
Maybe we should be having a separate discuss...Marc,<br />Maybe we should be having a separate discussion about exegetical & theological methods?<br /><br />Anyway, to take another tack:<br />Why is teaching the crux of male authority, in your view? (You say: "can this principle of male authority over females be upheld if women--even if they are educated--are teaching, preaching, and leading men? I am hard pressed to envision how itS. Coulterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09871591426399844076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-83284855366374601722009-10-02T10:00:56.953-04:002009-10-02T10:00:56.953-04:00To continue... (sorry for the length)
(2) You com...To continue... (sorry for the length)<br /><br />(2) You comment that you are not part of Israel but you are part of the Church. This is true. But to reiterate, these are not the only two periods in the narrative which are distinguished by the way people relate to God and vice versa. The religious history of the people of God is more complex than that. Paul--indeed the entire NT--is S. Coulterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09871591426399844076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-32625984418548877632009-10-02T10:00:40.122-04:002009-10-02T10:00:40.122-04:00I owe a response to Michael's post first:
(1) ...I owe a response to Michael's post first:<br />(1) I agree that the creation narrative contains a general, universal principle of rest. Sabbath also takes on more meaning as you go on in the development of the narrative of the Torah. Such as, trusting in God for provision (the manna story), and care for the earth (giving the fields a sabbath rest). While not necessarily rooted in the S. Coulterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09871591426399844076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-53285313552894216552009-10-01T23:33:45.113-04:002009-10-01T23:33:45.113-04:00Hey Scott..Just a quick reply...
In regards to th...Hey Scott..Just a quick reply...<br /><br />In regards to the 1 Tim 2 passage, since that what we initially were discussing...I am not convinced that the principle Paul is putting forth has anything to do with the education or lack thereof of the females in the churches Timothy was overseeing. This is not explicitly stated at all in the text. While it might be true historically that the women Marc Goodwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08493429173646869742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-33409049660060413072009-09-30T10:18:51.402-04:002009-09-30T10:18:51.402-04:00Thanks for responding again, Marc. :)
I think you...Thanks for responding again, Marc. :)<br /><br />I think your response re: Jesus' reinterpreting the Sabbath Law for his followers is a much stronger response. <br /><br />Here's my response to it, though: Jesus still kept the Sabbath, as a Jew. He took a position among the rabbis of his day on what that meant--for example, should he 'work' on the Sabbath by healing people? Is S. Coulterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09871591426399844076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-80522829700119862672009-09-30T04:17:47.445-04:002009-09-30T04:17:47.445-04:00Scott,
I did respond to your use of the analogous...Scott,<br /><br />I did respond to your use of the analogous relation between Exodus and Timothy citing the creation narrative as a basis for a command. I may not have state my point clearly, but first let me make an important distinction. First there is a huge difference between saying that I need not follow a command in scripture and that I need not follow a universal ideal that supports Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08403210805587314292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-37440505833973076682009-09-29T21:21:41.291-04:002009-09-29T21:21:41.291-04:00Hey Scott...When I wrote about the Exodus 20 Sabba...Hey Scott...When I wrote about the Exodus 20 Sabbath command not applying to us b/c it was under the Old Covenant, I wasn't trying to make a sweeping claim about the entire OT. It was just an initial thought, trying to differentiate between the two commands (Ex 20 and 1 Tim 2) rooted in the Creation narrative.<br /><br />I've thought about it some more and probably wouldn't take the Marc Goodwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08493429173646869742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-9680516550575071012009-09-29T11:28:57.812-04:002009-09-29T11:28:57.812-04:00A couple of people have elsewhere said to my analo...A couple of people have elsewhere said to my analogy of Exodus 20 and 1 Timothy 2 that since it is a false analogy because the former passage is in the OT/Mosaic Law, and the latter passage is in the NT.<br /><br />While I think this might make sense from a certain perspective as justification for dismissing the analogy, I am surprised by the response, because I know neither of these friends is S. Coulterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09871591426399844076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-40626714274916222842009-09-29T11:15:31.336-04:002009-09-29T11:15:31.336-04:00Thanks for your comments, Michael!
You said of 1 ...Thanks for your comments, Michael!<br /><br />You said of 1 Tim 2: "Paul does connect it to the creation narrative which should cause us to pause before deciding it is some form of anachronism." This is exactly why I raised the Exodus 20 passage, as another teaching rooted in the creation narrative--but which is certainly "anachronistic" for us. I would argue from the ExodusS. Coulterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09871591426399844076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-67449803209135089742009-09-28T23:21:38.868-04:002009-09-28T23:21:38.868-04:00I think it is wise and important to follow the uni...I think it is wise and important to follow the universal concept of the sabbath, but not the particulars of the practice. Jesus said that "the sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath." It is one more form of grace given to us by our creator. As humans even before the fall, we needed time to rest. The law and rituals of God's chosen people are particular practices to Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08403210805587314292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-36847201696923949582009-09-25T13:28:48.024-04:002009-09-25T13:28:48.024-04:00Oh, and welcome to the blog! :)Oh, and welcome to the blog! :)S. Coulterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09871591426399844076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-34824341158874072392009-09-25T13:28:35.592-04:002009-09-25T13:28:35.592-04:00Tony,
The name we render "Jesus" in our ...Tony,<br />The name we render "Jesus" in our English Bibles, appears in the New Testament (with typical Greek-English alphabet transliteration) as: "Iesous". Replace the "I" with "J" (typical German-English move I think), and simplify the "ou" to "u" and presto!: "Jesus". So I wouldn't say that's any kind of cultural S. Coulterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09871591426399844076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-67484215047041085112009-09-24T16:36:09.505-04:002009-09-24T16:36:09.505-04:00James?? What about Jesus! His name was Joshua!
H...James?? What about Jesus! His name was Joshua!<br />How did Joshua and Jacob become Jesus and James?<br />And they say the English Bible is inerrant...<br /><br />I too just discovered your blog! Now I can pollute your comment sections here as well! Hooray!<br /><br />With love,<br />TonyAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05536497151139104378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-3268296183837396572009-09-22T20:00:06.199-04:002009-09-22T20:00:06.199-04:00Just in case anyone cares, my own strategy for dea...Just in case anyone cares, my own strategy for dealing with the Sabbath commandment is twofold: (1) I understand the Sabbath rest eschatologically, and (2) I take various principles behind it seriously in Christian ethics--for example, trusting in God for provision rather than in your work. But I understand actually keeping the Sabbath literally as something I am not to follow as a Gentile S. Coulterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09871591426399844076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-19105038277431080102009-09-22T13:27:34.095-04:002009-09-22T13:27:34.095-04:00Gotta love Chalmers' zombies argument. :) Whe...Gotta love Chalmers' zombies argument. :) Whether or not one thinks it's persuasive.<br /><br />So imagine what it would be like for your zombie doppleganger to have a headache...<br /><br />:)S. Coulterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09871591426399844076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-88352562327248730202009-09-22T13:22:52.516-04:002009-09-22T13:22:52.516-04:00Thanks, Michael (F.)! I rarely get the opportunit...Thanks, Michael (F.)! I rarely get the opportunity to learn from you about music. It's nice. :)S. Coulterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09871591426399844076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-77972233302672476292009-09-22T13:21:49.357-04:002009-09-22T13:21:49.357-04:00Yes, I watched that sometime last year. I agree, ...Yes, I watched that sometime last year. I agree, that was very helpful. You can also find Walton's presentation in text form, in his NIV Application Commentary on Genesis.S. Coulterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09871591426399844076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-67834077745849658742009-09-22T06:16:21.520-04:002009-09-22T06:16:21.520-04:00I just looked up physicalism on wikipedia and foll...I just looked up physicalism on wikipedia and followed a bunch of links to reductionism, epiphenomenalsim, the exclusion argument, something about zombies, and Jaegwon Kim's argument against non-reductivism. Now my mind really hurts and I can't figure out if it is a physical state or mental state.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08403210805587314292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-12461996330049313692009-09-22T05:37:11.782-04:002009-09-22T05:37:11.782-04:00The term Romantic is often used for the period of ...The term Romantic is often used for the period of music running from about 182X to 1910 or so. The period is marked with chromatic language, more complex chord progressions, and more personal expression than form as you quoted for Grove's. It was adopted as a term to contrast classicalism. Although, if you look at musical progression through history, you will see that romantic vs. classic Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08403210805587314292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-78149884230019652452009-09-22T05:19:09.937-04:002009-09-22T05:19:09.937-04:00I find some of John Walton's, professor at Whe...I find some of John Walton's, professor at Wheaton College, ideas very intriguing and plausible. He explains that the Hebrew did not think of things in terms of matter, but in terms of function. I'd have to watch the lecture again to explain it with any intelligence. You can see it for yourself though at http://www.wheaton.edu/physics/research/symposia/conferences03/Sci_Sym.swfAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08403210805587314292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-51946839326246701192009-08-26T17:24:03.797-04:002009-08-26T17:24:03.797-04:00Hi, Matthew -- welcome to my blog!
Can I ask how ...Hi, Matthew -- welcome to my blog!<br /><br />Can I ask how you came to discover it?S. Coulterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09871591426399844076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-44043693822843109812009-08-26T12:03:18.883-04:002009-08-26T12:03:18.883-04:00I just discovered your blog today. What a treat. ...I just discovered your blog today. What a treat. I am glad you brought up that Jesus is the Word. Growing up Catholic the words of Jesus as found in the Gospels were always placed more highly than the epistles or other books. And where I am at today in life, Jesus' words as found in the indwelling of the holy spirit are what I find most important. The fact that there are many followers ofMatthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05175631942728510920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-64693609210210938822009-05-07T16:28:00.000-04:002009-05-07T16:28:00.000-04:00I stand corrected. Yes, marriage should then be s...I stand corrected. Yes, marriage should then be seen as a triadic, not dyadic relationship. (Indeed this seems to be the case with ALL seemingly dyadic relationships between two Christians.)S. Coulterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09871591426399844076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2235593528125457190.post-39511136857658542852009-05-07T15:46:00.000-04:002009-05-07T15:46:00.000-04:00Concerning your last few paragraphs:
Doesn't ...Concerning your last few paragraphs:<br /><br />Doesn't Bonhoeffer's concept of Christ as Mediator between *all* Christians imply that a marriage is not a dyadic relationship (not simply so, anyway), but rather that the husband and the wife relate to each other thru Christ because they are both in Christ? -- that is, the relationship is triadic? This would imply that there are 3 people reepicheep78https://www.blogger.com/profile/13799411570431275159noreply@blogger.com